What was said
What this says
As at Fri 9 Oct 2026Kickoff for Clashmore Recruitment, signed 18 Sep 2025 on Starter. Deirdre Barry wants consultants to see roles, placements and invoices together. Access, duplicate client records and a cautious mailbox decision are the early dependencies.
What happened: Daniel Okafor and Hamza Akhtar ran the kickoff with Deirdre Barry alone. Her systems coordinator was on a client site and will do most of the hands-on work.
Customer view: The value case is concrete. Consultants lose time finding out whether a client has paid before they ring them.
Commercial: Starter, 15 users. Deirdre plans to start with the pharma consultants. She was cautious about the mailbox, so it is a possible third connector once the core sources have shown results.
Watch: The finance lead must authorise the accounting connector. Duplicate clients and mistyped invoice references could weaken the first results, and some consultants are sceptical.
Themes
As at Fri 9 Oct 2026Who was there
BG-Demo
Them
Follow-up
Next steps
As at Fri 9 Oct 2026- Daniel Okafor to send Deirdre a short note of what was agreed by Friday.
- Hamza Akhtar to set up a working session with the systems coordinator at the start of next week.
- Hamza Akhtar to send the finance lead a checklist and give Deirdre a list of unmatched clients.
Risks
As at Fri 9 Oct 2026- The accounting connector needs the finance lead to authorise it, and she dislikes being rushed.
- Duplicate clients and mistyped invoice references in the customer's records could weaken the first results.
- The systems coordinator who does the hands-on work was not on the call.
Opportunities
As at Fri 9 Oct 2026- The mailbox could become a third connector once the core sources have shown results.
- A first group of pharma consultants can build word-of-mouth adoption across the 15 Starter seats.
Transcript
- Daniel OkaforMorning, Deirdre. Hamza, I can see you've joined as well. Thank you both for making the time, I know the week is already busy.
- Deirdre BarryMorning! Grand, can you both hear me alright? Quick one before we start, one of the consultants asked me yesterday if she'll see a client's invoices on the same page as their open roles. I said I'd ask you.
- Daniel OkaforThat's exactly what this is for, so we'll come back to it properly. Just to check, is anyone else from Clashmore joining us, or is it the three of us?
- Deirdre BarryJust me today. Our systems coordinator is tied up with a client onsite, but she'll be the one doing most of the hands on bits with Hamza, so I'll fill her in.
- Hamza AkhtarThat works well. Hi Deirdre, good to meet you properly. I'm Hamza, I'm the implementation consultant, so I'll be the person getting your sources connected and checking the data looks right before the consultants see it.
- Deirdre BarryLovely. And it's a lovely bright day in Cork, so I'm in good form.
- Daniel OkaforGood to hear. Let me say where we are, and then I'll hand over to Hamza. You signed on 18 Sep 2025, so we're only a few days in. You're on Starter, with 15 users, and the whole point, as you told us at the start, is that a consultant can open a client and see the roles, the placements and the invoices together without hopping between systems.
- Deirdre BarryThat's it. At the moment a consultant rings a client and then spends five minutes finding out whether they've paid us for the last placement. Nobody wants to be asking that mid call.
- Daniel OkaforRight. So how is the team finding the idea of it so far? Have you said much to them?
- Deirdre BarryI've told them it's coming. A couple of them are keen, a couple are the sort who'll believe it when they see it. Which is fair.
- Hamza AkhtarThat's a healthy mix, honestly. The ones who are sceptical usually become the best testers. Can I walk through what the next few weeks look like, and you tell me where it doesn't fit how you work?
- Deirdre BarryPlease, go on.
- Hamza AkhtarSo the brain gets built inside your own Snowflake account, which means your data doesn't go anywhere else. First job is connecting the sources. For what you've described, that's the system where the consultants keep clients, roles and placements, and then the accounting system for invoices. Those two are the core. If there's room, the mailbox is the third one, because that's where a lot of the history lives.
- Deirdre BarryThe mailbox would be great. Nothing lost in inboxes, that's what I keep saying. Though I'd want to understand what it actually reads, is it everyone's email?
- Hamza AkhtarGood question, and it's a decision for you rather than us. We can scope it to specific shared mailboxes or to named people, and we agree that with you before anything is switched on. I'd suggest we start with the two core sources and talk about the mailbox once you've seen the first results.
- Deirdre BarryGrand. That's sensible. I'd rather not have the whole office wondering what we've plugged in.
- Daniel OkaforAnd just to close the loop on your consultant's question, the invoices come from the accounting connector, so yes, they'd sit next to the roles for that client. Hamza will show you what that looks like once the connector is loading.
- Deirdre BarryBrilliant, she'll be delighted. Can the consultants see that without me setting up something for each of them?
- Hamza AkhtarNo, once they're added as users they all get the same view. You'll decide who gets added. You've got 15 seats, so it's about who you want in the first group.
- Deirdre BarryI was thinking the consultants who handle the pharma accounts first. They're the busiest and they'd give you the loudest feedback.
- Daniel OkaforThat sounds like the right instinct. A smaller first group means you can fix things quickly and the rest of the team hear good stories from colleagues, not from us.
- Deirdre BarryMm. Yes. Word of mouth in this place is faster than any email.
- Hamza AkhtarRight, so what I need from your side. For each source, someone with admin rights who can authorise the connection. For the accounting system that's usually a finance person, so it may not be you or your coordinator. Do you know who that would be?
- Deirdre BarryIt'd be our finance lead. I can ask her this week. Will she need to be on a call or is it just a click?
- Hamza AkhtarUsually about ten minutes, and I can be on with her so she isn't left on her own with it. I'll send a short checklist so she knows what she's agreeing to, no surprises.
- Deirdre BarryGrand, that'd save us hours. She hates being rushed into things.
- Daniel OkaforWhich is entirely reasonable. And on the records side, Deirdre, how clean would you say the data is at the moment? I ask because the brain is only as good as what it reads.
- Deirdre BarryHonestly? Mostly good. There are duplicate clients, because someone creates a new one rather than searching for the old one. And a few placements where the invoice reference was typed in differently. I've been meaning to tidy it.
- Hamza AkhtarThat's very normal, and it's useful to know now. What I'll do is look at how clients are matched between the two systems, and give you a short list of the ones that don't line up. You don't need to fix anything before we start, but the list will tell you where to spend an afternoon.
- Deirdre BarryOh that'd be great. Clean records, that's the dream.
- Daniel OkaforHamza, what's a realistic timeline for them, so Deirdre can set expectations with the team?
- Hamza AkhtarStarter implementation is around four weeks. If the access is sorted in the first week, I'd expect the core data to be flowing by the end of next week, and the consultants to be trying it in the weeks after that. I'd rather say that and beat it than promise a date I can't hold.
- Deirdre BarryFair enough. I won't tell them a date then, I'll tell them it's weeks not months.
- Daniel OkaforThat's a good way to put it. One more thing from me, the nightly refresh. The brain refreshes overnight, so each morning your consultants are looking at yesterday's picture, and that should be there before the working day starts. If it ever isn't, tell us straight away.
- Deirdre BarryWill do. They'd notice before I would, to be fair.
- Hamza AkhtarLast bit, then, who is the day to day contact? Is that you, or your systems coordinator?
- Deirdre BarryShe'll be the admin on the technical side, and I'll be the one chasing and making sure the consultants actually use it. That's the split.
- Hamza AkhtarPerfect. I'll set up a working session with her for the start of next week, and I'll copy you in so you can see how it's going without needing to join every one.
- Daniel OkaforAnd I'll come back to you by Friday with a short note of what we agreed today, so we've all got the same thing written down. Anything else you want to raise, Deirdre?
- Deirdre BarryNo, I think that's the lot. Actually, one thing. What if the consultants ask it something silly? Is that a problem?
- Daniel OkaforNot at all. Ask it anything. The best way for people to learn what it can do is to try, and we'd much rather see real questions than polite ones.
- Deirdre BarryGrand. Right, I'll let you both get on. Thanks a million.
- Hamza AkhtarThanks, Deirdre. Speak soon.
- Daniel OkaforThank you both. Have a good rest of the day.