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Onboarding kick-off on 24 Apr 2025. Kelly Swainston wants returns data first, then orders. Three sources to connect first, Josh Pearce as admin, and a small group of client managers to start.

What was said

What this says

Current to 13 Oct 26

Onboarding kick-off on 24 Apr 2025. Kelly Swainston wants returns data first, then orders. Three sources to connect first, Josh Pearce as admin, and a small group of client managers to start.

What happened: Laura Penhaligon agreed a deliberately small start with three sources: CRM, helpdesk and the warehouse data already in Snowflake. Access requests and a table list were assigned to Josh Pearce.

Customer view: Kelly said the review prep is exactly why they bought, with orders, returns tickets and review notes in three places. She prefers a few facts she trusts to many she has to apologise for.

Commercial: The customer is on Growth with forty seats. Josh asked about single sign-on and was told it is an Enterprise feature, so there is no sign of a tier upgrade need yet.

Watch: The helpdesk service account depends on a queue in IT, and returns tickets and orders may not join cleanly. Kelly's first question is which brands have rising returns.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 13 Oct 2026

Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Growth onboarding kick-off
Importance
neutral
Sentiment
positive
Voice
champion

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Laura sends the checklist and table list template after the call.
  • Josh requests the helpdesk account, creates the CRM account and sends the warehouse tables.
  • Kelly names the first client managers the next day and supplies a first question.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • The helpdesk service account depends on a colleague in IT and may take a couple of days.
  • Returns tickets and orders may not join cleanly, since the ticket does not always carry the brand or order number.
  • Adoption could stall if invited client managers never open the brain.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Kelly's monthly review pack could become a Growth dashboard built by the customer.
  • Growth has room for more connectors once the first three sources are trusted.
  • A small group of client managers using it well could pull in the rest of the forty seats.

Transcript

  1. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Morning both. Can you hear me alright? I've got the recording going, so apologies in advance.
  2. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    Morning Laura. Yes, loud and clear. Josh is just coming in, I can see him lurking.
  3. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    Sorry, sorry. Headset decided to update itself. Morning. Can you hear me?
  4. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Perfectly. Right, good, we're all here. Lovely start to the week for you, I hope?
  5. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    Busy. I've got a service review with one of our beauty brands later this week and I'm trying to pull the pieces together, which, honestly, is exactly why we bought this. Orders in one place, returns tickets in another, and the review notes somewhere else entirely.
  6. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That's a good place to start from, actually. What did the brand see, as you'd say. Let's make that the thread for today. I'd like to cover which sources we connect first, who owns what on your side, and what the first few weeks look like.
  7. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    Perfect. Returns first, then orders. That's the order I'd like things to arrive in.
  8. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Mm, okay. So just so we're level. You're on Growth, forty licensed users, and the plan is the client managers use it day to day. Josh, you're the admin, so you'll be the one doing most of the hands-on setting up with me.
  9. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    That's me. I'm a systems analyst here, so anything that touches our systems tends to land on my desk anyway. I'll be honest, I'm not completely sure what you need from us yet.
  10. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That's fine, that's what today is for. The brain runs inside your own Snowflake account, so the first thing is that we need a place in there for it to live. Do you already have a Snowflake account that your team uses?
  11. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    We do. It's mainly used for the warehouse reporting. Order lines, dispatches, that sort of thing. Returns are a bit messier.
  12. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    Messier is kind. Returns come in through the helpdesk as tickets and then somebody on the floor books them in separately, so you can't always match the two.
  13. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Right, and that's the bit the brain should help with, because it can read the tickets and the warehouse records side by side. But it's only as good as what we connect. So I'd suggest we start small. Three sources: your CRM, the helpdesk, and the warehouse data that's already in Snowflake.
  14. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    Only three? I thought there'd be a long list.
  15. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Growth gives you room for more, and we'll add them. But in my experience the customers who connect everything in week one end up with a pile of half-working sources and nobody trusts the answers. Three that work properly beats eight that don't.
  16. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    I like that. I'd rather walk into the review with a few facts I trust than a lot I have to apologise for.
  17. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Exactly. Josh, for the CRM and the helpdesk, what we need is a service account for each, read-only, with access to the objects we'll list in the checklist. Is that something you can create yourself or do you need to ask?
  18. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    CRM I can do. The helpdesk is run by a colleague in IT, so I'd have to ask. Probably a couple of days.
  19. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    Tell me if she drags her feet and I'll have a word. Returns are the priority.
  20. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    No, she's good, it's just a queue.
  21. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Okay. And for the warehouse data, it's already in Snowflake, so we won't be pulling it anywhere. We'll just need a role that can read the relevant schemas. Do you know offhand which schemas the order and dispatch tables sit in?
  22. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    Two of them, I think. One for the main site and one for the second site, and they don't quite use the same column names. I've been meaning to tidy that up for a year.
  23. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Ha, I'd say that's normal. Don't tidy it now. Just send me the list of tables and I'll map them. We can handle two naming conventions, it just takes a bit of care.
  24. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    Can I ask something slightly different? When the brain looks at a brand, can I ask it about returns for that brand specifically? Not the whole site, one brand.
  25. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Yes, as long as the brand is something we can find in the data. So is the brand name on the ticket, or on the order, or both?
  26. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    On the order, always. On the ticket, mostly. Sometimes the customer's own email is all you've got.
  27. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    We could link them through the order number, if the customer quotes it. Most do.
  28. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That's a sensible join. Let's use that and see how many tickets don't match, and then we know how much of a gap there is. I'd rather find out in week one than in front of a brand.
  29. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    Yes. Let's take the facts to the review, even if the fact is that we've got a gap.
  30. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Good. Now, who owns what? Josh, you're admin, so technical setup and access. Kelly, I think you're the one deciding which questions matter and who gets invited. Is that fair?
  31. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    That's fair. I'll say who the first client managers are. I'd start with a small group so they actually use it rather than ignoring it.
  32. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Small group is wise. How many are you thinking?
  33. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    Three or four to begin with. The ones who run the biggest accounts. If they like it the rest will want it.
  34. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Perfect. You've got forty seats, so there's no pressure on numbers. The danger isn't running out, it's that people get an invite and never open it. So I'd pair each of them with a real question from their own review prep.
  35. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    Is there anything I need to do about single sign-on? I've seen it on the list.
  36. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Not on Growth, that's an Enterprise feature. People sign in with their own credentials, and you as admin manage who's in. It's simple enough.
  37. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    Okay, good. One less thing.
  38. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Let me share my screen and show you the checklist so you can see what I mean. Give me a second. Can you see that?
  39. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    I can. It's a bit small but I can read it.
  40. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    I'll send it as a document afterwards so nobody's squinting. Basically three blocks, one per source. Access, scope, and a test query. Josh, you'd tick them off and I'd check them my end.
  41. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    That's clear enough. What's a test query?
  42. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    A very simple question we run once the connection's live, just to prove records are arriving. How many returns tickets in the last month, say. If the number looks wrong to you, we've found a problem before anyone depends on it.
  43. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    I'll know if it's wrong. I've been counting them by hand for months.
  44. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Then you're the best test we've got. Brilliant. Timing. Realistically I'd say the three sources are live in a couple of weeks if the access comes through, and then we spend time on the questions and the review pack.
  45. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    That works. The review this week I'll do the old way, and the next one I want to do from the brain.
  46. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    That's tight but I'll push on the helpdesk account today.
  47. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Great. So to recap. I send the checklist and the table list template after this call. Josh, you request the helpdesk account and create the CRM one, and send me the warehouse tables. Kelly, you pick your first few client managers and the first real question you'd like answered.
  48. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    Done. I'll send the names tomorrow. Question's easy: which brands have rising returns, and what are the customers saying.
  49. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Lovely, that's a proper first question. Anything else before we stop? I know we're early.
  50. Josh Pearce
    Josh Pearce None
    No, I think I've got what I need. Thanks Laura.
  51. Kelly Swainston
    Kelly Swainston None
    Nothing from me. Thanks, speak soon.
  52. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Cheers both. Speak soon.

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