What was said
What this says
Current to 11 Oct 26Geoffrey Rowe liked the product but pushed on the £28k price. Owen Tallis held price and added an on-site training day and quarterly check-ins. Naomi Fordham accepted; Tom Ashdown to send the order form that day.
What happened: Owen Tallis joined the 10 Jan 2024 negotiation. Geoffrey pushed twice for movement on price; Owen declined to cut and offered a training day and quarterly check-ins instead.
Customer view: Naomi said the training works for them. She expects to start with five or six people in operations and wants capacity for fifteen users, so Starter fits.
Commercial: The call ended at twenty-eight thousand all in with training included. The call does not show a signed order form, so the executed paper decides the terms.
Watch: Naomi wants time to prove value before expanding. Early adoption and a clear value case will matter at the first renewal.
Themes
Current to 9 Oct 26Who was there
BB-Demo
Them
Follow-up
Next steps
Current to 9 Oct 26- Tom Ashdown to send the order form on 10 Jan 2024 and track signature.
- Book the on-site training day and quarterly check-ins with Naomi Fordham.
Risks
Current to 9 Oct 26- Geoffrey Rowe called the price a significant investment and asked twice for movement.
- Only five or six people will use it at first, so value must be proved before expansion.
Opportunities
Current to 9 Oct 26- Naomi Fordham expects to expand beyond operations once value is proved.
- The on-site training day can drive early adoption on Starter.
Transcript
- Tom Ashdown NoneGeoffrey, Naomi, this is Owen, our VP Sales. He's here to talk through the commercial side.
- Owen Tallis NoneHi both. So where are we on the deal?
- Geoffrey Rowe NoneWe like the product. Question is price. Twenty-eight thousand is a significant investment.
- Owen Tallis NoneWhat are your concerns?
- Geoffrey Rowe NoneWe'd need some movement on price.
- Owen Tallis NoneLet me ask, how much will you actually use in year one? Naomi, what's your thinking?
- Naomi Fordham NoneWe'd start with operations: maybe five or six people: asking questions about calls, tickets, CRM. Give us time to prove value, then expand.
- Owen Tallis NoneSo you're not maxing out the fifteen users from day one?
- Naomi Fordham NoneNo. But we'd want the capacity there.
- Owen Tallis NoneOkay. Implementation is fixed, so any flex is on subscription. What I can do is throw in a day of on-site training, that's normally an add-on. Plus quarterly check-ins. How does that work?
- Geoffrey Rowe NoneTraining helps. But can you move on the price itself?
- Owen Tallis NoneThe honest answer is our costs are what they are. I can't cut further and keep service quality. But the training day and check-ins add value.
- Naomi Fordham NoneOkay. I think the training works for us.
- Tom Ashdown NonePerfect. So we're at twenty-eight all in with training included. I'll get an order form over today.
- Geoffrey Rowe NoneGreat. What's next?
- Tom Ashdown NoneYou sign the order form, we kick off the following week.
- Owen Tallis NoneThanks both. Look forward to working with you.
- Geoffrey Rowe NoneCheers.