Laura Penhaligon

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Laura Penhaligon trained underwriter Cian Farrell and admin Aoife Tuohy on search, chat and pages. Cian found it more useful than expected but worries he is the only one who knows how it works.

What was said

What this says

Current to 11 Oct 26

Laura Penhaligon trained underwriter Cian Farrell and admin Aoife Tuohy on search, chat and pages. Cian found it more useful than expected but worries he is the only one who knows how it works.

What happened: Laura ran an 81 minute training on 19 Dec 2025. Cian built a broker page, used chat across CRM and helpdesk data, and tested cross-source questions.

Customer view: Cian said it was more useful than he thought and would use it for renewals first. The brain declined to invent a loss ratio, which Laura treated as a good result.

Commercial: A loss ratio sits in a spreadsheet, so it is a possible new connector later. A second session with the other underwriters was proposed for the new year.

Watch: Cian is a single champion and says so himself. The open helpdesk ticket shows data untidiness at the customer, not a brain fault.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 11 Oct 2026

Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Underwriter onboarding training
Importance
praise
Sentiment
positive
Voice
user

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Laura Penhaligon to send the slides, the three habits and a one page guide.
  • Laura to agree a second, shorter session with the underwriters in the new year, co-hosted by Cian.
  • Laura to raise the loss ratio source with the customer.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Cian Farrell is the only underwriter trained so far, which makes him a key-person risk for adoption.
  • Broker loss ratio data is not in any connected source, so one question could not be answered.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • A second session with the other underwriters could widen use beyond one person.
  • A loss ratio source could become an additional connector later.

Transcript

  1. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Morning, Cian, morning, Aoife. Can you hear me alright? We've got a long one today, so please say if you need a break.
  2. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Morning. I can hear you. I'm Cian, I'm one of the underwriters. Siobhán said I'm the guinea pig.
  3. Aoife Tuohy
    Aoife Tuohy None
    Morning both. I'll be mostly listening, but I might jump in on the admin side.
  4. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Perfect. Cian, before I show you anything, tell me what a normal morning looks like for you. What do you go looking for?
  5. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Honestly, mostly renewals. A broker sends in a submission, and I need to know what we've written for them before, whether there've been claims, and whether anyone's complained. I've got four windows open by ten o'clock.
  6. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That's a good starting point, because that's exactly a question for the brain. Let me share my screen. You've seen the login page, I assume? Good. So there are three ways in. Search, chat and pages.
  7. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    What's the difference between search and chat? They look similar.
  8. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Fair question. Search finds records and documents, like a list of results. Chat answers a question in a sentence or two, and shows you the records it used. Use search when you know what you're looking for, chat when you want it summarised.
  9. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Right. So chat for 'tell me about this broker'.
  10. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Yes, try that. Pick a broker you know well, and ask what's happened with them in the last few months. Don't be too clever, write it the way you'd say it to a colleague.
  11. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Okay, I've typed it in. It's thinking. Oh, that's quite good. It's got the last contact, a couple of open claims queries and a note about a renewal. It says what it used, there's a list underneath.
  12. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Click one of those sources. That's the bit I'd like you to get in the habit of. Never trust a summary without opening the thing it came from, at least at the start.
  13. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Mm. It opened the email. It's right, that's the one. I'd forgotten I'd even written that.
  14. Aoife Tuohy
    Aoife Tuohy None
    That's why we wanted the shared mailboxes in first. A lot of that sits in people's heads.
  15. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Right. Now let me show you what happens when the question is vague. Ask it 'any problems?' and see.
  16. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    It's asked me which broker I mean. Fair enough.
  17. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Exactly, and that's a good sign. It would rather ask than guess. Now give it the name again, and ask about claims only.
  18. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Okay. It's given me three tickets and says two are resolved. One's open and it's been open a while. Is that open ticket really open, or is that just how it was left?
  19. Aoife Tuohy
    Aoife Tuohy None
    That one will be in the helpdesk as pending, I'd guess. The brain only knows what the helpdesk says. If someone forgot to close it, it'll look open.
  20. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Which is a useful thing to find out, to be fair. The brain is as good as the data in it, and it shows you where your data is untidy.
  21. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Yeah. I'll tell the claims team, they'll be thrilled.
  22. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Ha. Right, let's have a go at pages. A page is a saved set of questions about one thing, like a broker, that stays up to date. I'll make one with you, for a broker you look after.
  23. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    So you click new page, choose a template, broker overview. It asks which broker. Then you can add blocks. Recent emails, open tickets, last review. You can drag them around.
  24. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    I'm doing it now. It's quite quick. Can I add my own note?
  25. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Yes, a text block. Notes you add stay yours, they don't get mixed into the data. Go on, try.
  26. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Okay, I've got a page for one broker, with four blocks and a note. This is more useful than I thought. Can I share it with a colleague?
  27. Aoife Tuohy
    Aoife Tuohy None
    You can, but sharing follows the access model. They'll only see what their own role would let them see. That's deliberate, because of the notes fields.
  28. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Fine by me. Less to worry about.
  29. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Right, let's take a short break. Ten minutes, and when you come back, I'd like you to try three real questions from your own day, no help from me. Aoife, you can do the same from the admin side. Look at the connector freshness and tell me if anything looks flat.
  30. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Back in ten. Thanks, Laura.
  31. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Welcome back. Cian, how did it go? Don't be polite.
  32. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Two out of three were good. One I asked about a broker's loss ratio and it said it didn't have that. Which is true, we don't have it in any of the sources, it's in a spreadsheet.
  33. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That's a perfect answer from the brain, honestly. It told you it didn't know instead of inventing a number. If the loss ratio matters, that's a new source for later, and I'll make a note to raise it with Siobhán.
  34. Aoife Tuohy
    Aoife Tuohy None
    And on my side, everything's moving. Email's climbing, the CRM's climbing. The helpdesk looked flat yesterday but that's because it was a quiet day for claims, and it's picked up now.
  35. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Good, that's the right way to read it. Flat for a day on a quiet source isn't a problem. Flat for weeks is. Cian, shall we go further? There's a part I haven't shown you, which is asking across sources.
  36. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Go on.
  37. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    A question like, which brokers have both an open claims query and a renewal coming up. That needs the CRM and the helpdesk together. Try typing it just like that.
  38. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    It's given me a list. There are a handful. Two I recognise and one that surprises me.
  39. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Open the one that surprises you and look at why it's on the list. This is the useful bit. It isn't just the answer, it's the reasoning visible underneath.
  40. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Right, I see it. The claims query is old, and the renewal is real. So it's on the list for the right reason, it's me who didn't know. That's a bit embarrassing.
  41. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Not at all, that's what it's for. Last bit, a few habits I'd recommend. One, start questions with the broker's name or code. Two, open the sources. Three, if an answer is wrong, tell us, because we can often fix the data or the mapping.
  42. Aoife Tuohy
    Aoife Tuohy None
    And tell me too. If it's the helpdesk or the CRM being untidy, it's usually something I can clean up.
  43. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    How do I report one? Do I email someone?
  44. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    There's a thumbs down button next to each answer, and it lets you write a line. Those come to Aoife and to us. Try it on that loss ratio one.
  45. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Done. It said thanks, which is polite.
  46. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Good. Let me stop sharing. Cian, what's your gut? Is this something you'd use on a Monday morning?
  47. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Yes. I'd use it for the renewals first. I'd want my team to try it, though, I'm a bit nervous about being the only one who knows how it works.
  48. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That's a very sensible instinct. I'll suggest to Siobhán that we do a second, shorter session in the new year with the rest of the underwriters, and you can co-host. Does that suit?
  49. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Yes, I can do that. As long as I can steal a few of your slides.
  50. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    They're yours. I'll send the slides, the three habits and a one page guide with today's notes. Thanks both, that was a good one.
  51. Aoife Tuohy
    Aoife Tuohy None
    Thanks, Laura. Cheers, Cian.
  52. Cian Farrell
    Cian Farrell None
    Cheers, both. Have a good Christmas.

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