Laura Penhaligon

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Ilse de Graaf, an account manager, reports real time savings from the brain and ties it to a review. Two frictions came up: a missed call caused by a naming mismatch, and long answers. Wider rollout waits on Pieter's training rule.

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What this says

Current to 11 Oct 26

Ilse de Graaf, an account manager, reports real time savings from the brain and ties it to a review. Two frictions came up: a missed call caused by a naming mismatch, and long answers. Wider rollout waits on Pieter's training rule.

What happened: Laura Penhaligon ran a training session on 2 Jun 2025 with Ilse alone. Ilse saved a three-line morning check page and tried a cross-shipper question on exceptions.

Customer view: Ilse says she now prepares shippers much faster and had an answer ready when Pieter asked in a review. She uses the overdue exceptions page every morning and asks what was promised on the last call.

Commercial: the licence covers forty users with plenty of space. Ilse says Pieter decides who gets access and wants people trained first, so she will show two colleagues the morning check.

Watch: a call was missed because the shipper account name is spelled differently in the recorder. Laura is passing the spelling to Bas for a match rule, which matters for trust in search.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 11 Oct 2026

Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Training and daily use
Importance
praise
Sentiment
positive
Voice
user

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Laura Penhaligon passes the shipper spelling to Bas so a match rule can be added.
  • Laura sends Ilse the note on short answers and the contact name trick.
  • Ilse asks Pieter, then shows two colleagues the morning check on Thursday.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • A call was missed because of a name mismatch in the recorder, which could erode trust in search.
  • Access for more colleagues depends on Pieter, who wants training first.
  • Long answers annoy Ilse and could limit use if not tamed.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • The Growth licence has plenty of unused user space for colleagues once Pieter agrees.
  • Ilse showing two colleagues the morning check could widen adoption peer to peer.
  • Cross-shipper exception questions give Pieter early warning before shippers complain.

Transcript

  1. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Hello, Ilse. Good afternoon. Can you hear me?
  2. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    Yes, hello. Good afternoon. It's only the two of us, Bas is in a meeting about the helpdesk.
  3. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That's fine. Did you get a chance to use it since the last session? You said you'd try it for the review.
  4. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    I did, and I have to tell you, it was good. On Monday I prepared three shippers in the time I normally need for one. And then in the review, Pieter asked a question about one of mine and I had the answer right there. He looked at me, like, how?
  5. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That's lovely to hear. Which questions did you actually use?
  6. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    The overdue exceptions page, every morning now. And I asked it what was promised on the last call for each shipper. That was the most useful. I used to search my notes.
  7. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Good. So today, I'd like to go one step further. Tell me first, what annoyed you? Honestly.
  8. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    Two things. One, the answer sometimes is very long. I want three lines. Two, once it said there was no call for a shipper but I know I had one.
  9. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Okay, let's take the second one first, because that may be a data question. Do you remember the shipper?
  10. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    The one with the frozen goods. I had a call with them on Tuesday, I think. About the delivery windows.
  11. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Right. Looking at it, there is a call on Tuesday, it's there. But it's listed under the contact's own name, and the shipper account is spelled slightly differently in the recorder. So when you asked by shipper name, it missed it.
  12. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    Ah. So it is my fault? Or the recorder?
  13. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Neither, really. It's a naming thing. If you ask with the contact's name it appears. I'll pass the spelling to Bas so he can add a match rule and then both will work. I'd also tell you, whenever it says no call and you think there was one, try the person's name.
  14. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    Okay. Good, I did not know that trick.
  15. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Now the long answers. You can tell it how you want it. Try adding, answer in three lines, with the ticket numbers last.
  16. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    Oh, that works. That is much better. Can it remember this for me, so I don't type every time?
  17. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Not as a setting, but you can save the question as a page with the instruction inside it. Let's do that for your morning check.
  18. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    Saved. I called it morning check. It has overdue exceptions, then calls from yesterday, in three lines.
  19. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That's a good habit. Now something a bit different. You said retail shippers are the difficult ones. Let's look across the group rather than one at a time. Ask it which retail shippers have had the most exceptions this quarter, and what the calls say about them.
  20. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    It says there are two with many exceptions, and their calls mention peak season three times. Hm. That is not a surprise but it is good to see it in one place.
  21. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    And this is the kind of thing you could bring to Pieter before the shippers bring it to him.
  22. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    Yes. That is what he always says. See the exception before the shipper complains. I will write it up for the next review.
  23. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Let me show you one more feature, the way to see what changed. If you open a shipper page, there's an activity view, with what's new since you last looked.
  24. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    That's good. So Monday morning I see what happened over the weekend. And I don't need to remember.
  25. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Yes. Well, over the weekend, as of the refresh. And do tell your colleagues. You're on a licence for forty users, there's plenty of space, so they can all be added when Pieter is ready.
  26. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    I will tell them, but Pieter decides, he is a bit strict about who gets access. He wants them to be trained first.
  27. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That's sensible. Would it help if you showed two colleagues the morning check yourself? Often that's better than another session with me.
  28. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    Yes. I can do that on Thursday. I will ask Pieter first.
  29. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Okay, let's use the last bit for practice. Give me a real question you'll have next week that you haven't tried yet.
  30. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    I have a shipper meeting about a renewal of their handling agreement. What did they say in the last calls about price, and are there open exceptions that I should fix before the meeting?
  31. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    It gives me two calls. In one they say the rate is too high compared to somebody else. And one exception is open, a delayed pickup. Good. So I fix the pickup this week and I know what they will ask.
  32. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That's a good outcome. Before we finish, can I summarise what I will do? I'll pass the spelling issue to Bas, and send you the note about asking for short answers and the contact name trick.
  33. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    Yes, please. And I tell Pieter about the Thursday idea.
  34. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Perfect. Thanks, Ilse, this was really helpful for me too. Speak soon.
  35. Ilse de Graaf
    Ilse de Graaf None
    Thank you, Laura. Bye.

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