Hamza Akhtar

Copperlane Payroll / BB-Demo – Training

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Training call on 14 Jul 2025, two weeks after go-live. Wayne Entwistle improved a messy query, Ian Brearley asked about freshness, outages and access, and both welcomed adding more colleagues under the 15-user Starter limit.

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What this says

Current to 11 Oct 26

Training call on 14 Jul 2025, two weeks after go-live. Wayne Entwistle improved a messy query, Ian Brearley asked about freshness, outages and access, and both welcomed adding more colleagues under the 15-user Starter limit.

What happened: Hamza Akhtar coached Wayne Entwistle on phrasing, then showed the admin screen. Ian Brearley, the admin, asked about data currency, connector outages and user limits.

Customer view: Wayne called the improved answer really good and said the session was useful. Ian wants colleagues to see what is possible.

Commercial: Hamza said Starter allows fifteen users and Copperlane is at one, so there is room to grow within the tier. Adoption by more of the team is the main value lever.

Watch: Hamza said stale data is the customer's concern if outages are on their side. Usage currently rests on Ian as admin and Wayne as the active user.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 11 Oct 2026

Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Training and user rollout
Importance
praise
Sentiment
positive
Voice
user

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Hamza Akhtar puts the admin docs in writing and sends a calendar invite for next week.
  • Ian Brearley decides who else joins the admin walkthrough.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Usage depends on one admin and one active user so far.
  • Stale data after a customer-side outage could be read as a BB-Demo failure.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • More colleagues can be added within the fifteen-user Starter limit, deepening adoption.
  • Wider attendance at the next admin session could build internal sponsorship.

Transcript

  1. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    Hi Wayne, Ian, I'm Hamza, the implementation consultant. So you've been live for a couple of weeks now, and I wanted to check in, see how you're getting on with the brain.
  2. Wayne Entwistle
    Wayne Entwistle None
    Yeah, all right. I've been using it a bit. It's good, but, I don't know, do you know how to make it do what I need?
  3. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    That's what I'm here for. What are you trying to do?
  4. Wayne Entwistle
    Wayne Entwistle None
    So I want to see all my clients and their invoices due in the next thirty days. I asked it, but the answer was kind of messy.
  5. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    Okay. The short answer is, you can do that. The longer answer is the way you ask matters. Let me show you. Instead of 'invoices due in the next thirty days', try 'what are my clients with invoices due within thirty calendar days'.
  6. Wayne Entwistle
    Wayne Entwistle None
    Oh, and that's cleaner?
  7. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    Much cleaner. The brain reads calendar time better than duration. Try it.
  8. Wayne Entwistle
    Wayne Entwistle None
    Yeah, that's better. That's actually really good.
  9. Ian Brearley
    Ian Brearley None
    Hamza, sorry, can I ask about the data? Is it all current?
  10. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    Good question. Nightly refresh. Everything's complete by seven in the morning, UK time, every business day.
  11. Ian Brearley
    Ian Brearley None
    And if something breaks in a connector, like one of your systems goes down, what happens?
  12. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    We'd catch it and flag it to you. You'd see stale data until it's fixed. It's on you to let us know about outages on your end.
  13. Ian Brearley
    Ian Brearley None
    Okay. Fair. What about the access controls, is there anything else I should know?
  14. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    You set them up. You decide who sees what. Wayne won't see clients he doesn't manage. Others won't see payroll details. I'll walk you through the UI.
  15. Ian Brearley
    Ian Brearley None
    Good. Yeah, let's do that.
  16. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    So here's the admin screen. You add users here. You can set roles: viewer, editor, admin. And then per user, you can scope what they see: clients, payroll, invoices, or a mix.
  17. Wayne Entwistle
    Wayne Entwistle None
    So I can add colleagues?
  18. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    Yeah, and set their role and what they see. They'll get an invite, they sign in, and they're away.
  19. Ian Brearley
    Ian Brearley None
    How many people can we add? I remember there was a limit.
  20. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    Starter tier is fifteen users. You're at one so far. You've got room.
  21. Wayne Entwistle
    Wayne Entwistle None
    Nice. So we could bring on more of the team.
  22. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    Exactly. Look, Ian, I'll put the admin docs in writing, walk you through it properly next week. Sound good?
  23. Ian Brearley
    Ian Brearley None
    Yeah, that's good. Thanks.
  24. Wayne Entwistle
    Wayne Entwistle None
    So should someone else be on the next call to see the admin stuff, or just Ian?
  25. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    Either, really. It's Ian's call, he's the admin. But if someone else wants to see it, they're welcome.
  26. Ian Brearley
    Ian Brearley None
    I think they should. People will want to know what's possible.
  27. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    Perfect. I'll send over a calendar invite for next week. Anything else I should cover today?
  28. Wayne Entwistle
    Wayne Entwistle None
    Nope, I think that's it. This is actually useful.
  29. Hamza Akhtar
    Hamza Akhtar None
    Cheers, Wayne. Thanks, both. Speak next week.

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