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Active users fell by roughly a fifth on the previous quarter. Dana Whitaker's finance team is questioning forty seats and she asked what options exist on seat numbers, ahead of the 2 Feb 2027 renewal.

What was said

What this says

Current to 11 Oct 26

Active users fell by roughly a fifth on the previous quarter. Dana Whitaker's finance team is questioning forty seats and she asked what options exist on seat numbers, ahead of the 2 Feb 2027 renewal.

What happened: Elena Novak opened with usage, which averaged about six active people a day, down roughly a fifth on the previous quarter. Dana Whitaker put it down to people pulled onto other work, August leave and her own lapse in nudging.

Customer view: Dana's finance team has started asking about the value of forty seats. She asked whether seats could come down, and said she wanted options, not to make a request.

Commercial: Jordan Pike owns commercial terms and Elena will brief him. Questions asked also lean heavily on Dana, which is a key-person risk.

Watch: Only one how-to ticket was raised and no product frustration was reported. The renewal is on 2 Feb 2027, so there is time to show more people asking more questions.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 11 Oct 2026

Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Usage decline, seat justification
Importance
renewal
Sentiment
mixed
Voice
champion

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Elena Novak to send Dana the list of licensed users and recent activity privately after the call.
  • Elena Novak to brief Jordan Pike that Dana asked about seat options, and ask him to contact her.
  • Elena Novak to propose morning refresher times, with a follow-up call in a few weeks.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Finance is comparing forty licensed seats with about six daily users, which could lead to a seat reduction at renewal.
  • Value depends heavily on Dana Whitaker, a key-person risk.
  • Habit is the problem: the brain is not yet part of the regional managers' daily routine.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • A thirty-minute refresher for the regional managers using questions from their own buildings.
  • Weekly set questions per team to build a habit and widen the number of people asking.
  • A usage list sent privately to Dana lets her right-size access and show finance a clear plan.

Transcript

  1. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Hello Dana. Can you hear me?
  2. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Hi Elena. Sorry, I'm just coming out of another meeting. Give me one minute to get my headphones. Okay. Yes, I can hear you.
  3. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Not a problem at all. Good afternoon from Amsterdam. I imagine you are still in the middle of your morning.
  4. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Half past ten and it already feels like a long day. I'm good though, I'm good.
  5. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Thank you for making time. As I wrote in the agenda, there are three items. One, how usage has moved over the last few weeks. Two, the one ticket you raised with us. Three, what we agree to do together before your renewal. I will make sure that we close with written actions, as last time.
  6. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Right, yes. I saw. Okay. I'll be honest, I had a feeling this call was going to be about the usage thing.
  7. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Before that, to confirm the actions from last time: I sent the written summary and the short how-to for your two regional managers. Did they arrive?
  8. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    They did. Thanks. Honestly I forwarded the how-to and I don't know whether anybody opened it. Which, I guess, is kind of the theme.
  9. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    That is useful to know. Then let us begin with usage, and not leave it to the end. To confirm, you are on Growth, with forty licensed users. Over the last thirty days the average number of people active on a given day was about six. Compared with the previous quarter, that is down by roughly a fifth.
  10. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Mm. Yeah. That's what I thought. It felt quieter.
  11. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Please do not take this as criticism. It is simply the trend I would like us to understand. It was going the other way when we spoke three weeks ago, and I would like to know what changed.
  12. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    I know. It was up, and I was pleased, and now I'm, I don't know, I'm a bit annoyed with myself, honestly.
  13. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Please, there is no need. Can you help me understand what you are seeing on your side? Not the numbers, but the people.
  14. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    So. A couple of the property managers who were using it the most got pulled onto other work for a while. Some inspections, a lot of lease paperwork. And a couple of others have been off, it's August, people take vacation. But then I also think I stopped nudging. I did the thing I told you I'd do, I told them to ask the brain, and then I got busy and didn't check.
  15. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    That is very honest, thank you. May I ask, are those who were pulled onto other work expected to come back to it?
  16. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    I think so. I mean, I hope so. I can't promise. It depends how the quarter goes.
  17. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Understood. So, to separate the causes, it may be partly seasonal, partly people's time, and partly habit. Is that fair?
  18. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    That's fair. Yeah. Though I don't love that the number's down when I've got to go and justify the thing.
  19. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Which brings me to something I would like to be careful about. Has someone asked you to justify it?
  20. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Our finance team has started asking, nothing formal. They look at the licence count, forty seats, and they see six or so people. They do the maths. It's £50k a year, so they notice.
  21. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    That is reasonable of them, and I would rather we face it now than in the new year. May I explain how I read it?
  22. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Please.
  23. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Forty licences is what the Growth plan includes, and you have headroom, so low use is not about a limit. The more important measure is the questions asked, and who asks them. Let me share my screen. Can you see it?
  24. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    One sec. Okay, yes.
  25. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Questions asked have dipped as the number of people has, which is what I would expect. The thing to look at is how many different people are asking, and how much of it comes from one or two.
  26. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    So it's me again.
  27. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Partly, yes, and I say that kindly. It is the same point we discussed before. If most of the value depends on one person, it is fragile.
  28. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Yeah. I know. Okay. So what do we do about it?
  29. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    I would suggest three things. One, a short refresher session for the regional managers, thirty minutes, with real questions from their own buildings, not a generic demo. Two, I send you a list of who has licences and has not logged in recently, so that you can decide who still needs access. Three, we choose two or three questions for each team that they ask every week, so that it becomes a habit.
  30. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    I like the first one. The second one scares me a bit. If I see forty names and most of them haven't logged in, that's a bad look.
  31. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    It is a bad look only if we do nothing with it. And I would not send it to anyone but you. To confirm, you decide what to do with it.
  32. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Okay. Fine. Send it to me.
  33. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Now the second item, the ticket. To confirm, you raised one in the last thirty days, a how-to question, and nothing urgent. It was answered and closed. Was it resolved to your satisfaction?
  34. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Yeah, that was one of the managers, just how to do something. She got her answer, no issue.
  35. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Good. One ticket and nothing urgent is healthy. It does at least tell me that someone is trying things.
  36. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Right. Small comfort.
  37. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Perhaps a little more than that. Now the third item, the renewal. Your contract runs to 1 Feb 2027 and the renewal date is 2 Feb 2027. I do not wish to alarm you, but it is better that we use the months in between. Jordan Pike is the account owner on our side, and he will want to hear this from me.
  38. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Should I be worried about the renewal?
  39. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    I would say you should be attentive, not worried. Nothing is wrong with the service and you have raised nothing urgent. What matters is whether, by the time your finance team looks at this, you can show that more people are asking more questions. That is what I would like us to work on together.
  40. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    And if it doesn't go up? Hypothetically. Could we bring the number of seats down?
  41. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    That is a commercial question, and I would not like to answer it from memory. It sits with Jordan, as he owns the commercial terms. I will make sure that he contacts you, and I will tell him that you asked, so that he is not surprised.
  42. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Okay. No, that's fair. I'm not saying that's what I want, I just wanted to know what the options look like.
  43. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Of course. I will write that down exactly as you said it, that you are asking about options and not making a request.
  44. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Thanks. I appreciate that.
  45. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Before we close, is there anything about the brain itself that has frustrated people? Anything that made them stop using it?
  46. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Not that I've heard. It's more that it's not in their day yet. They've got their routine and the brain isn't part of it. Which is on me. Which I said already. And the accounting thing I mentioned last time has gone quiet too, their lead's been swamped. I haven't forgotten.
  47. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    There is no pressure on that. Let us leave it until usage is steadier. I will keep the note open. Then it is something we can fix with habit rather than with product. Shall I read back the actions?
  48. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Go on.
  49. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    One. I send you the list of licensed users and recent activity, privately, after this call. Two. I propose a short refresher session for the regional managers, and you tell me which of them should be there. Three. We agree a small set of weekly questions for each team. Four. I tell Jordan that you have asked about options for the seats, and ask him to contact you. Five. I send a written summary of today. And for you, six, you consider with your finance team what they would want to see before the renewal. I will not suggest dates for their work, as you would know best.
  50. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    That all sounds reasonable. Can the refresher be in the morning, my time? Afternoons are chaos.
  51. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    I will note that. I will propose times in the morning your time, and the managers can choose. I suggest a short call again in a few weeks, to see whether the numbers have moved. Would that suit you?
  52. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Yeah, that's good. Hold me to it. Elena, thanks. I'd rather hear it straight, so thank you.
  53. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    You are welcome, Dana. It is better to hear it now. I will write today.
  54. Dana Whitaker
    Dana Whitaker None
    Okay. Speak soon.
  55. Elena Novak
    Elena Novak None
    Speak soon. Goodbye.

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