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New Director of Digital and Data Craig Oduya said the group is consolidating data onto an in-house Microsoft platform and reviewing the brain against it. He declined to discuss commercials or commit on renewal, and asked for exit position in writing.

What was said

What this says

Current to 11 Oct 26

New Director of Digital and Data Craig Oduya said the group is consolidating data onto an in-house Microsoft platform and reviewing the brain against it. He declined to discuss commercials or commit on renewal, and asked for exit position in writing.

What happened: Craig, about three weeks in, set out a mandate for one in-house platform on the Microsoft estate. The brain is being reviewed against it. Helen Marsden was clear the direction is Craig's, not hers.

Customer view: Craig asked what BB-Demo holds if the contract ended, and wants a written data ownership note and a usage picture. Helen needs source lineage for every board pack figure to survive any move.

Commercial: Tom Ashdown cited Growth, forty seats, term to 1 Sep 2026 and £44k a year. Craig would not discuss commercials or commit on renewal, and wants to meet early in the new year.

Watch: Day-to-day health looks good, with no open tickets and invoices up to date. The risk sits with a new senior sponsor who is not a current user.

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Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
In-house platform review
Importance
renewal
Sentiment
mixed
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Esther Quaye to send Helen the data ownership note and usage picture by the end of next week, and open the arrears ticket today.
  • Tom Ashdown to arrange a meeting with Craig early in the new year, after his mapping.
  • Tom to confirm price and terms against the order form before anyone quotes them.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • The Growth subscription is being mapped against an in-house Microsoft platform and the new director would not commit on renewal.
  • The sponsor driving the review is not a day-to-day user of the brain.
  • An exit position was asked for in writing, so the data ownership note must be accurate.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Because the brain runs in the customer's own Snowflake account, data and models sit with the customer, which supports a strong exit and ownership answer.
  • Helen's reliance on the repairs and tenant calls join for the board pack is a concrete value case.

Transcript

  1. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Morning, all. Can everyone hear me alright?
  2. Helen Marsden
    Helen Marsden None
    Yes, loud and clear. Morning, Tom.
  3. Esther Quaye
    Esther Quaye None
    Morning, I can hear you fine. Craig, I think you're still on mute.
  4. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    Apologies. Morning. Can you hear me now?
  5. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Perfect. Right, no drama, let's get going. How's everyone's week been? Helen, I know it's board paper season for you.
  6. Helen Marsden
    Helen Marsden None
    It is. The pack goes out at the end of the week, so I've spent most of it chasing one repairs figure that I want to be comfortable with before it leaves my desk. But it's under control. Thank you for asking.
  7. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Good, good. And Craig, you're what, three weeks in now? Settled?
  8. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    Just about three weeks. Still learning where everything is. There's quite a lot of surface area.
  9. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    I bet. Well, Esther's got the running order, so I'll hand over.
  10. Esther Quaye
    Esther Quaye None
    Thanks, Tom. Good morning again, everyone. Just so we're aligned, I'll start with the tickets, because that's how I always begin. There are none open at the moment, and none raised in the last month, so nothing high priority and nothing waiting on us. I've logged that. Invoices are all up to date on your side too, so thank you for that.
  11. Helen Marsden
    Helen Marsden None
    That matches what I see. The team hasn't needed to come to you for anything.
  12. Esther Quaye
    Esther Quaye None
    Good. On usage, you've got around nine people active on a typical day, which is up on the previous quarter. You're licensed for forty on Growth, so there's plenty of room. And the nightly refresh has been landing before the working day starts, as far as I can see. Helen, does that match what your team's finding?
  13. Helen Marsden
    Helen Marsden None
    It does. The analysts open the brain first thing and the arrears and complaints data is there. What I'd say is that the piece we lean on most is the join between repairs tickets and tenant calls. That's what gives me the board-ready picture. In the board pack, section four, the repairs completed in target figure comes straight through it.
  14. Esther Quaye
    Esther Quaye None
    That's really helpful to hear. I'll note it.
  15. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Craig, anything you've picked up so far? Helen's been the day-to-day on this, obviously.
  16. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    Yes. Let me set out where I am, so we're all working from the same picture. My mandate is to consolidate the group's data onto one platform, built in-house, on the Microsoft estate we already run. One platform, fewer suppliers. We're building that capability in-house. So everything that touches data is being reviewed against the platform strategy, and that includes the brain.
  17. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Right. Okay. That's good to know, and thanks for being straight with us.
  18. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    It's not a criticism of anything. It's a sequencing question.
  19. Esther Quaye
    Esther Quaye None
    Can I ask what the review actually looks like? Just so we're aligned on what you'd need from us.
  20. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    Mainly a mapping exercise. What each supplier does, where the data sits, what overlaps with the platform. And then, what's our exit position? If a contract ended tomorrow, what do we hold, and in what shape?
  21. Esther Quaye
    Esther Quaye None
    That's a fair question, and honestly I think it's one we can answer well. Because the brain runs inside your own Snowflake account, the data and the models sit with you, not with us. But I don't want to wave my hand about, so I'll write it up properly. Each connector, where it lands, what format, and what would stop working if we weren't there.
  22. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    That would be useful. In writing.
  23. Helen Marsden
    Helen Marsden None
    Can I add something? The board will ask where the figures come from. Whatever the platform ends up being, I need to be able to show the source for every number in the pack. At the moment the brain gives me that. I'd want that lineage to survive any move.
  24. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    Understood, Helen. That's a requirement I'd put on the platform, not on a supplier.
  25. Helen Marsden
    Helen Marsden None
    I'm only saying so it's on the record. And so there's no confusion, the platform direction is Craig's, not mine. I'm happy to help test it, but it isn't my plan.
  26. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    That's accurate. Helen's been generous with her time.
  27. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Can I ask, Craig, where's the Microsoft estate at the moment? Is it already holding much of the data, or is that still to come?
  28. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    Early. Documents and mail are in Microsoft 365 and SharePoint. The rest is a roadmap, and I won't pre-empt it today.
  29. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    No, fair enough. And just so everyone's got it in front of them, you're on Growth, forty seats, and the term runs to 1 Sep 2026. Price is £44k a year, though I'd want to confirm that against the order form before anyone quotes it.
  30. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    I've seen the contract. I won't be discussing commercials today, and I'm not making any commitment on the renewal. That would be premature. The review comes first.
  31. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Absolutely, no pressure from me. Let's get something in the diary for after the review's had a first pass, so we're not chasing you.
  32. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    Reasonable. I'd rather meet once I have the mapping done. Early in the new year.
  33. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Leave that with me. I'll send something round.
  34. Helen Marsden
    Helen Marsden None
    One small thing, while I have everyone. The rent arrears total in section six of the board pack and the figure in the housing management system don't quite reconcile for the latest month. I think it's timing on the extract, but can you show me the source?
  35. Esther Quaye
    Esther Quaye None
    Yes, of course. I've logged that, and I'll chase engineering today. Since nothing's been raised formally, I'll open a ticket on your behalf so it's tracked, and I'll come back to you with the lines and the timing.
  36. Helen Marsden
    Helen Marsden None
    Thank you. I'd rather have the figures than an explanation.
  37. Esther Quaye
    Esther Quaye None
    Understood. Figures first.
  38. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Craig, is there anything you'd want to see from the brain in the meantime? A usage picture, say, for your mapping?
  39. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    A usage picture would help. Who asks the questions, how often, which connectors carry the weight. I'd rather work from facts than impressions.
  40. Esther Quaye
    Esther Quaye None
    I can do that. I'll include it with the data ownership note so it's one pack. Is that alright, Helen? You may want to look at it first.
  41. Helen Marsden
    Helen Marsden None
    Please. I'd like to see it before it goes further, just so the numbers are right.
  42. Esther Quaye
    Esther Quaye None
    Of course. I'll send it to you first, then, and then it's yours to forward.
  43. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    That works. Anything else on your side?
  44. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Not from me. I think that's us. Thanks, everyone, I appreciate you being so open, Craig.
  45. Esther Quaye
    Esther Quaye None
    Thanks all. I'll send the note and the usage picture to Helen by the end of next week, and the ticket today.
  46. Helen Marsden
    Helen Marsden None
    Thank you, Esther. Speak soon.
  47. Craig Oduya
    Craig Oduya None
    Thank you. Goodbye.
  48. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown None
    Cheers, all. Have a good one.

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