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Finance Director Gareth Whitlam questioned what Brackwell pays for: about five of forty Growth users are active. He wants a checkable value case, not a discount, before the 1 Dec 2026 renewal.

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What was said

What this says

Current to 10 Oct 26

Finance Director Gareth Whitlam questioned what Brackwell pays for: about five of forty Growth users are active. He wants a checkable value case, not a discount, before the 1 Dec 2026 renewal.

What happened: Marcus Bell walked Gareth through usage on the 24 Jul 2026 check-in. About five of forty licensed users are active, and questions asked are softer and concentrated in a couple of people.

Customer view: Gareth inherited the account in the spring and has a brief to cut software spend. He doubts the five users justify the whole figure and wants account-level examples he can test.

Commercial: Growth is £44,000 a year on both the order form and the invoices, with nothing overdue. Starter was raised as a smaller shape, and pricing sits with Tom Ashdown.

Watch: Usage rests on one or two people, and Brackwell has no named owner for the brain. Gareth will not accept an increase without a reason he can write down.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 10 Oct 2026

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Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Value case before renewal
Importance
renewal
Sentiment
mixed
Voice
decision-maker
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Who was there

BB-Demo

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Them

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Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Marcus sends one email with five numbered items: a one-page contract summary, a usage pack, ticket timestamps, depot sessions and written examples.
  • Gareth names an owner for the brain on the Brackwell side by the end of next week.
  • Marcus books a call with Gareth and Tom Ashdown once the pack is sent.
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Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Only about five of forty Growth users are active and questions asked are down on the previous quarter.
  • Usage is concentrated in one or two people, so a departure would collapse it.
  • Gareth has a brief to cut software spend and will not accept a rise without a written reason.
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Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Depot account managers could be brought on through short sessions introduced by the revenue operations lead.
  • A written-up example from the heaviest users could give Gareth a value case he can check.
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Transcript

  1. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Hello Gareth, can you hear me alright? I've got a bit of an echo coming back on my side.
  2. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    I can hear you fine. Afternoon, Marcus. No echo at this end.
  3. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Good, then it's probably my headset. Thanks for making the time, I know the diary's tight this week.
  4. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    It's tight every week. Let me tell you where I am, if that helps. I've read the usage summary you sent over, and I've been through the order form again. What I haven't got is a clear answer to what exactly we're paying for.
  5. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    No, that's fair, and honestly that's what I wanted to spend the time on. I'll share my screen and walk you through what I've pulled, and you can tell me where it doesn't hold up. Is that alright?
  6. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Go on.
  7. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Right, can you see the usage page? It's the one with the line heading downwards on the right-hand side, which I'll come to.
  8. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    I can see it. I'd rather not guess, so tell me what the line is.
  9. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    It's the people actually logging in and asking things, averaged over the last month. You're licensed for forty. On a typical day the number active is around five. And against the previous quarter that's down by a fair bit, so I won't dress it up.
  10. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Five out of forty.
  11. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Yeah. Five-ish. I'd rather you heard it from me than found it in the report.
  12. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Who are the five?
  13. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Mostly revenue operations, plus a couple of the depot account managers who check an account before they ring a retailer. That's what it was bought for, really, delivery-exception tickets and calls and account history in one place. The wider group of depot managers hasn't picked it up.
  14. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    So the thing that was going to be company-wide is five people and a habit.
  15. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    I wouldn't put it quite like that, but I'm not going to argue with the shape of it. The depth is there with the people who use it. The breadth isn't.
  16. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    What exactly are we paying for, then? Forty seats, and five are used. If I took that to the board they'd ask me one question.
  17. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Which is, why not fewer.
  18. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Why not none. But we'll start with fewer.
  19. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Okay. So, the straight answer. Growth is a package, several teams, the connectors, the dashboards builder, the quarterly reviews, and then the forty users on top. It's forty-four thousand a year on the order form and forty-four thousand a year on the invoices, and those two agree, I've checked them against each other. And nothing's overdue, which I know you'll say isn't the point.
  20. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    It isn't the point. Paying on time isn't the same as it being worth paying. Show me the usage. Not logins, the questions. What are the five asking?
  21. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Give me a second, I'll open the questions view. It's slow to load when there's a lot of history.
  22. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Right, there we are. So questions asked is the better measure, because it's the work rather than the logging in. It's softer than the quarter before, in line with the users, so I'm not going to tell you it's holding up. What's interesting is who's asking. It's concentrated. A couple of people ask most of them, and they're asking about retail accounts that have had a run of delivery exceptions.
  23. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Which is what we bought it for.
  24. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Yes. That's the use in your profile, spotting a retail contract that's wobbling before the retailer says anything. Those people are doing exactly that.
  25. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Do they find anything? Has anybody said, we kept that contract because the brain showed us something? Because that's a value statement. A dashboard isn't.
  26. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    I can't point you at a written-up case today, and I'm not going to invent one. What I can do is sit down with the two or three heaviest users and write it properly. Which account, what they saw, what they did about it. Then you've got something you can test rather than take on trust.
  27. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    I'd like that. With account names, not adjectives.
  28. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Understood. Names, dates, what changed.
  29. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    And that's one person asking most of the questions. Say it plainly. If that person leaves, what then?
  30. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Then usage falls off a cliff, yes. That's the risk with any tool that one or two people carry. It's one of the reasons I'd like to get the depot managers in, so it's not sitting on a single desk.
  31. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Tickets. You mentioned there'd been a couple.
  32. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Two in the last month, both marked high priority. I'd rather send you the detail than read it out from memory and get something wrong. They're in the usual support queue and I'll send you the thread.
  33. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Two tickets and five users. Small numbers either way. So it's neither loved nor hated. It's ignored.
  34. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    That's a bit harsh on the five, but I take your point. Quiet is the word I'd use.
  35. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Quiet's expensive at that price. What happens in December?
  36. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    The contract runs to 30 Nov 2026 and renews on 1 Dec 2026. Tom Ashdown owns the commercial side, so anything on price or shape goes through him, and I'll make sure he knows this conversation happened. My side is whether you're getting use out of it before then, and what I can honestly put in front of you.
  37. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    I'll say this now so nobody's surprised later. I'm not minded to agree to anything that goes up without a reason I can write down.
  38. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Noted, and I'll pass it on word for word. I'd rather Tom heard it from me than found out on the call.
  39. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Could it be smaller? Fewer seats, fewer connectors. What's the actual lever?
  40. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    There are a few. Users can be right-sized. There's a smaller tier, Starter, which is built for one team. Or there's the opposite, more adoption, getting the depots on so you use what you've got. I'm not the right person to put numbers on any of those, that's Tom's, but I can tell you from the usage which one makes sense.
  41. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Which does the usage say?
  42. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Honestly? That forty seats is more than the current pattern needs. So the answer is either bring more people in or bring the number down. I'd want to talk to a couple of the depots before I said which, because otherwise I'm guessing.
  43. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    That's a straight answer. Don't take it as praise.
  44. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Wouldn't dream of it.
  45. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    What would the depot managers actually do with it? Be specific. I don't want a feature list.
  46. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Fair. Before a quarterly review with a retailer, instead of someone pulling delivery-exception tickets from one place, emails from another and call notes from a third, they ask one question about the account and get the lot in one answer. That's the saving. It's time, and it's not walking into a meeting blind.
  47. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Time I can't see on a spreadsheet.
  48. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    No, you can't, and that's the gap. That's why I want the examples from the people using it. I can't measure the hour they didn't spend, but they can tell you.
  49. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Then ask them. And ask the ones who don't use it why not. That's the more interesting list.
  50. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Yes, I think that's right. I'll put together a few questions and send them to you first, so you can see I'm not steering it.
  51. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Do that. Now, you said usage was down against the previous quarter. Why? Did something change on our side?
  52. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    I don't know, and I don't want to make something up. There's been a change of people on your side since the spring, so it may be partly that. But the data doesn't tell me why, only that it happened. That's another thing the conversations with the depots should answer.
  53. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    I joined in the spring. I inherited it. I didn't choose it, so I'm not defensive about it, but I'm not going to defend it either.
  54. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    That's absolutely fair. I'd rather you're sceptical and looking at the numbers than nodding it through.
  55. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Good. Because I'll be looking at all of them. What's the retention on the connectors? What's actually connected?
  56. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Let me look. Hold on.
  57. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    So you've got the sources loading, they're not broken, nothing's gone flat that I can see. Records indexed are moving the way you'd expect. So the plumbing's fine. It's the asking that's thin, not the data.
  58. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    So the data's fine and nobody's asking it anything. Which is worse, in a way. A broken connector I could blame someone for.
  59. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Ha. Yes, I suppose it is. Nobody to shout at.
  60. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    I'm not shouting. I'm asking.
  61. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    No, I know, sorry. That was a poor joke. Look, what I'd propose is something small and practical. Thirty minutes with each of the depots that have the most account managers, I'd show them their own accounts in it, and we see who bites. Then in a couple of weeks you've got a view that isn't mine.
  62. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Who sets those up? I don't want my people's time wasted on a sales presentation.
  63. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    I'd ask the revenue operations lead to introduce me, so it comes from inside. No slides. I'd share my screen with their own accounts on it and let them ask things. If they're not interested after that, that's an answer too.
  64. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    That's an answer I'd value. Fine.
  65. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Great. Can I check one thing on your side? Are you looking at the renewal yourself, or is it going through somebody else?
  66. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    I'm looking at it. Anything over a certain value comes across my desk and I've been given a brief to cut software spend. I'd rather you knew that.
  67. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Thanks, that's helpful and I'll make sure Tom knows. Does your finance team need anything from us in the meantime? Invoices, a statement, a copy of the order form?
  68. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    I have the order form. I'd like a plain summary of what's contracted: users, connectors, review cadence, service levels. One page. I've been reading the original and it's not made for human beings.
  69. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Yes, I can do that. One page, what's in the Growth tier and what's specifically in your order form, so there's no ambiguity. I'll flag anything where the order form differs from the standard.
  70. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Please do. Differences are what I'm interested in.
  71. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Okay. And can I say, on service, because it matters to you. Nothing's been missed that I can see. Two tickets, handled within what Growth promises. I'd show you the timestamps if you want them.
  72. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Send them. I'll read them. I won't be moved by them, but I'll read them.
  73. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    That's all I ask.
  74. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    One more thing. Questions asked. Is that going down quarter on quarter, or is it seasonal? Retail is lumpy.
  75. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Both, I'd guess, which is a cop-out, but I can look at the same period last year and give you a proper comparison. I've only given you the last quarter so far. I'll put the year-on-year in the pack so you can see it for yourself.
  76. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    That's more useful than the line chart.
  77. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Agreed. I'll replace the line chart.
  78. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Now, if I did nothing. If I didn't engage, didn't reply, left it. What happens to the contract?
  79. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    It would come to its end on 30 Nov 2026, and you'd be looking at a renewal to 1 Dec 2026. I'd be asking you well before then, in writing, what you wanted to do. I'd rather you decided on purpose than by default, whichever way you go.
  80. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Well before then is when?
  81. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    You'll get the formal renewal notice from me in good time, and Tom will be in touch about the shape of it. I'd say you'd have a proper proposal in front of you with plenty of room to push back, not the week before.
  82. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Plenty of room. I'll hold you to that.
  83. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Please do.
  84. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    What does the support side look like if we shrink? Do we lose anything that matters?
  85. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Depends on the shape. A move to Starter changes the response time on urgent tickets and the review cadence, from quarterly to six-monthly, and it drops the dashboards builder. Those are the three I'd want you to look at. Tom can give you the exact detail. I'd hate to say the wrong thing here and have you act on it.
  86. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Dashboards. Do we use them?
  87. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    A few have been built. I'll tell you how many are looked at regularly in the pack. I don't want to give you a number off the top of my head.
  88. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Good. That's the kind of thing I'm asking.
  89. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Yes. Okay, let me play back what I've got, and you stop me if I've got it wrong. One, a one-page summary of what's contracted, with any differences from the standard flagged. Two, a usage pack by person and by team, with year-on-year questions rather than the line chart. Three, the ticket detail with timestamps. Four, short sessions with the busiest depots and a few questions on why people aren't using it. Five, a write-up of real examples from the heaviest users.
  90. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    That's five. Send it as one email, in that order, so I can tick them off.
  91. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Will do. One email, a numbered list.
  92. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    And Tom. I want him to know that I'm not asking for a discount. I'm asking what we'd be paying for.
  93. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    I'll say exactly that. Not a discount, a case.
  94. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Not a case from you, a case I can check.
  95. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Right, one I can check, yes. That's the difference. I'll try to keep my opinions out of the pack and just give you the facts.
  96. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    How long will the pack take?
  97. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    The summary and the usage pack, I'd say by the end of next week. The depot sessions depend on their diaries, so a couple of weeks for those, probably. I don't want to promise a date for something that's in other people's calendars.
  98. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Fine. I'd rather have the honest date than the quick one.
  99. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    That's what you'll get.
  100. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    One thing I haven't asked. The spring. I'm told a few of the people who set this up have moved on. Who looks after it on our side now?
  101. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    That's a good question and I don't have a clean answer, which is part of the problem. The admin side is thin. I'd want a named person on your side, someone in revenue operations probably, who's the owner for the brain. It makes a surprising difference.
  102. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Then that's a question for me to take to my team. Name them by the end of next week and I'll tell you.
  103. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Brilliant, that'd help a lot.
  104. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Don't read anything into it. It's housekeeping.
  105. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Understood, housekeeping.
  106. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Let me say what I still doubt, since you've been straight with me. I doubt that the five people using it are worth the whole figure. I doubt that the other thirty-five will start. And I doubt that a quieter product is a better one. That's where I am.
  107. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    That's clear, and I'd rather have that than polite. The pack is meant to address the first one, the sessions the second. The third I'd leave with you, because I can't prove it either way and I'd be foolish to try.
  108. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Good. That's the most sensible thing you've said.
  109. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Thank you, I think.
  110. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    It wasn't a compliment either.
  111. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    No, I got that. Is there anything else you'd like to cover while I've got you? I've got time.
  112. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Not today. I'd like to see the pack. If the numbers are what you say, we'll talk again with Tom. If they're not, we'll talk again with Tom more briefly.
  113. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Understood. I'll book you and Tom in for a proper conversation once you've got the pack, so you're not waiting on me. Shall we say a couple of weeks from now? I'll send an invite rather than ask you to find a gap.
  114. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Send the invite. I'll move something if I have to.
  115. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Great. And I'll send the summary of this call tonight, so it's in writing what I've promised, not just what I've said.
  116. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    That's sensible. Include the bit about housekeeping.
  117. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    A named owner on your side, by the end of next week. Got it.
  118. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Anything else from you?
  119. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Only that I appreciate the plain talk. It makes my job easier, even when it's uncomfortable.
  120. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Right. Then I'll let you get on.
  121. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell None
    Thanks, Gareth. Speak soon.
  122. Gareth Whitlam
    Gareth Whitlam None
    Goodbye, Marcus.
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