Laura Penhaligon

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Laura trained Joost on chat, sources, a shared visit prep page and a dashboard. Joost found it natural and will show two colleagues this week. He noted only a few of the forty seats are in use.

What was said

What this says

Current to 11 Oct 26

Laura trained Joost on chat, sources, a shared visit prep page and a dashboard. Joost found it natural and will show two colleagues this week. He noted only a few of the forty seats are in use.

What happened: Laura Penhaligon ran a 69 minute training with Joost van der Linden, a Key Account Manager. He used a live case, two installers who had called about late deliveries, and built a visit prep page.

Customer view: Joost said it replaced what he did by hand on Sunday evenings and that he was surprised how natural it is. He accepted that today's changes show only the next day and will keep checking the order system for those.

Commercial: Laura said dashboards on Growth suit the commercial operations lead and the BI specialist more than account managers. Joost would ask his manager about a regional view, which could lead to a session with her.

Watch: Joost asked about the forty seats because only a few colleagues have logged in. Adoption depends on colleagues sharing what saved them time.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 11 Oct 2026

Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Visit prep page adoption
Importance
praise
Sentiment
positive
Voice
user

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Laura to send a one page written guide the same day.
  • Joost to show two colleagues the visit prep page this week and report back.
  • Joost to ask his manager whether she wants a regional dashboard.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Only a few of the forty licensed users have logged in, so wider value is unproven.
  • Overnight refresh means same-day order changes are not visible, so users still rely on the order system for live detail.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • A short session with Joost's manager and the BI specialist could lead to a regional dashboard on Growth.
  • A shared visit prep page could bring other account managers in and fill more of the forty seats.

Transcript

  1. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Hello Joost, good afternoon. Can you hear me?
  2. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Hi Laura, yes, good afternoon. I hear you fine. Give me a second, I am closing some windows. Monday afternoons, you know, everything is open.
  3. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    No rush. How has your week started?
  4. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Busy, but good. Two installers called this morning about late deliveries, so honestly this is a good moment for training. I have a real example.
  5. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Perfect, let's use that. I will share my screen, and you tell me when you want me to slow down. Can you see the brain's home page?
  6. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Yes. I see the search bar and the chat on the side.
  7. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Good. Three ways in, really. Search, chat, and pages. Most people start with chat and never leave. Let's start there, but with a proper question, not just a keyword. What is one of the installers who called?
  8. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    A mid-sized installer in the south, near Eindhoven. I will not say the name on a recording, I will type it.
  9. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Fine, go ahead and type it in the chat, then ask: what orders did they place recently, and were there any delivery complaints?
  10. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Typing. Okay. It is thinking. Oh, it gives me the orders in a list and then a complaint underneath. That is quick.
  11. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Notice the small source links under each answer. Click one.
  12. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    It opens the helpdesk ticket. And the order is from the CRM. So I can check where it comes from.
  13. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Exactly. That is the habit I want you to build. If an answer matters, you open the source. It is not magic, it is only reading across your systems faster than you can.
  14. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Right. Because before I would open the CRM, then the helpdesk, then ask a colleague in finance about credit. Three places.
  15. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Then let's try the credit part. Ask: does this installer have any open credit queries?
  16. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Okay. It says one open credit query, and it was raised by their purchasing contact. Hm. I did not know that.
  17. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That is the sort of thing you would have found only by phoning finance. It matters before you call the installer back about the delivery, because you do not want to be surprised.
  18. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Yes. That is useful. Can I ask something? How fresh is this? If someone changes an order this morning, do I see it?
  19. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Good question. The brain refreshes overnight, and it should be complete before the working day starts. So something changed this morning you will see tomorrow, not now. For a live phone call that is worth knowing.
  20. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Okay, so for today's orders I still check the order system. For history, the brain.
  21. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That is a fair way to say it. History and the full picture in the brain, the live detail at the source.
  22. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Mm. Good. Next?
  23. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Pages. Think of a page as a saved answer that stays up to date. If you ask the same thing before every installer visit, you do not need to retype it. Let me build one with you. Click new page.
  24. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Done. It asks for a title.
  25. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Call it installer visit prep. Then add a block, and choose ask a question.
  26. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Okay, I have the block. Do I type the installer name inside the question?
  27. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    You can, but better to leave the installer as a variable, so you choose the customer each time. There is a field at the top, see it? Select installer.
  28. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Yes, I see. So I build it once and then I only change the name. That is smart.
  29. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Add three blocks: recent orders, open complaints, open credit queries. That is your whole visit prep.
  30. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Okay. It is working. I selected another installer and the blocks all filled in. Honestly this is what I did by hand on Sunday evenings.
  31. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Then you have just given yourself back your Sunday evenings.
  32. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Ha. Yes. Please tell my wife.
  33. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Now, sharing. You can share the page with a colleague, and they get the same template. That is the quickest way to bring the rest of the team along. Do you want to try?
  34. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Let me think. Yes, I would like to share it with the other account managers in the first group. But is it the right thing? Because some of them use different words.
  35. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Good instinct. Share it as a starting point and let them change their copy. Nothing breaks, because each copy is separate.
  36. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Okay, shared. It says delivered. Now what about the dashboards? Our commercial operations lead mentioned dashboards.
  37. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Yes. On Growth you have the dashboards builder. Honestly that is more for the people who look at the whole book of installers, like your commercial operations lead and the BI specialist. For an account manager, pages are usually enough. But you can build a simple one, and I will show you so you know what it is.
  38. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Sure, show me.
  39. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    So you pick a measure, here complaints per month, and split it by region. Then you save it, and it sits next to your pages. Does that make sense?
  40. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    It does. I would probably not build it myself, but I can see my manager wanting the regional view. Let me ask her.
  41. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Please do. If she wants one, I am happy to do a short session with her and the BI specialist.
  42. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Okay. Let me ask something different. We have forty seats, right? But I think only a few of us have logged in.
  43. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Right, forty licensed users. Recently a handful have been active on average, which is actually a good rise on the quarter before, but you are right, there is a lot of room. The best way to fill it is what we just did: one useful page, shared, that people use before visits.
  44. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    So, if the others see it saves time, they come by themselves.
  45. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    That is usually how it goes. Training sessions help, but a colleague saying this saved me an hour does more.
  46. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Can I try one more question? A harder one. Which of my installers have more than one open complaint and also a credit query?
  47. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Go for it. That is a combined question, so it might need a rephrase if the first answer is vague.
  48. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    It gave me a list of installers, but the first answer looks a bit broad. Some do not have credit queries at all.
  49. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Then tighten it. Say: only installers that have both an open complaint and an open credit query. The words only and both help a lot.
  50. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Better. Now I have a short list, a handful of names. That is exactly the list I would call this week.
  51. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    And that is the real value, I think. Not finding one fact, but finding the installers you would otherwise miss.
  52. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Yes. I am a bit surprised how natural it is. I expected to need a manual.
  53. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    I will still send you a short written guide with the three things we did: asking with sources, the visit prep page, and tightening a question. One page, no more.
  54. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Good. And if something looks wrong, who do I tell? You, or the helpdesk?
  55. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Raise a ticket, and mention me or our customer success manager. If the data looks stale or a source is not loading, the BI specialist on your side will also want to know, since he is your admin.
  56. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Okay. I will show two colleagues this week, using the visit prep page. Then I tell you what they say.
  57. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Brilliant, that would be really useful. I will send the guide today.
  58. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Thanks, Laura. This was worth the hour. Well, more than an hour.
  59. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon None
    Slightly over, sorry. Thanks for your time, Joost. Speak soon.
  60. Joost van der Linden
    Joost van der Linden None
    Speak soon, bye.

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