Lewis Kerr

Clonvara Insurance Services / BB-Demo – Negotiation

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Clonvara Insurance Services: documents logo Clonvara Insurance Services: documents · 2026-03-31 11:15

Clonvara's COO, legal manager and finance head reviewed the revised add-on order form at £2,836 excluding VAT. Price flexibility was declined as discounts apply to a first term only. Signing is pencilled for 7 Apr 2026 once the corrected document is confirmed.

What was said

What this says

Current to 11 Oct 26

Clonvara's COO, legal manager and finance head reviewed the revised add-on order form at £2,836 excluding VAT. Price flexibility was declined as discounts apply to a first term only. Signing is pencilled for 7 Apr 2026 once the corrected document is confirmed.

What happened: Lewis Kerr and Owen Tallis took Brendan Moran, Shane Keane and Gráinne Lynch through the revised order form. Shane asked that the add-on co-terms with the main subscription, renewing on 1 Nov 2026, and that the go-live commitment is written down.

Commercial: Gráinne confirmed a single invoice at £2,836 excluding VAT is fine, with a purchase reference. Brendan asked for flexibility on price given grown usage, and Owen declined because discounts apply to a first term only.

Customer view: Brendan accepted the principle and called the amount modest. He is content with the structure but will not sign drafts and wants the corrected document first.

Watch: The add-on is not signed on this call. The 7 Apr 2026 date depends on Shane confirming the corrected wording, and the go-live remedy must be put in writing by the account team.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 11 Oct 2026

Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Add-on order form negotiation
Importance
upsell
Sentiment
positive
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Lewis Kerr to send the corrected order form with Shane's wording and the term sentence on the call day.
  • Shane Keane to review by the end of the week, then Brendan Moran signs.
  • Gráinne Lynch to send the purchase reference so Lewis can add it to the invoice.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • The add-on is unsigned and the pencilled 7 Apr 2026 date depends on Shane Keane confirming the corrected wording.
  • The go-live miss remedy is only agreed as a written commitment under the existing agreement, so it must be documented.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Aligning the add-on to the 1 Nov 2026 renewal ties it to the main contract and supports the renewal conversation.
  • Brendan Moran accepted the add-on structure and the usage case, which signals appetite for further extension.

Transcript

  1. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Morning, everyone. Can everyone hear me? Brilliant. I've brought Owen along, he's our VP Sales, as there are a couple of commercial points where a senior name helps.
  2. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    Morning all. Thanks for the time. Brendan, Shane, Gráinne, good to meet you properly. Lewis tells me we're close, so where does the deal stand against the date?
  3. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    Good morning. Before we start, to confirm the documents: we have the revised order form received yesterday, is that correct? I would like to be sure we are all on the same version.
  4. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Correct. The revised one, with the co-terming sentence you asked for. Anything earlier is superseded.
  5. Shane Keane
    Shane Keane None
    Good morning. I've read it. I have two points of wording and one query. The first is the term: I want to be sure the add-on ends at the same date as the main subscription and doesn't renew on its own.
  6. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    That's the intention. It's co-termed to your renewal on 1 Nov 2026, so it ends with the main contract and renews with it, or not, as one. I'll tighten the sentence so there's no ambiguity.
  7. Shane Keane
    Shane Keane None
    Thank you. The second is the commitment on the go-live. The order form says the source will be live within a number of days, which is good, but I'd like to know what happens if it isn't.
  8. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    Fair. The commitment is in the document. If we miss it, we work it out with you under the existing agreement, and I'll make sure the account team put it in writing. I'd rather not invent a new remedy on a call.
  9. Shane Keane
    Shane Keane None
    That's honest, and acceptable, as long as it's written down.
  10. Gráinne Lynch
    Gráinne Lynch None
    From finance, can I ask about the invoice? Is the figure £2,836 plus VAT, and is it a single invoice or spread?
  11. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    £2,836, excluding VAT, and that's the full value of this deal. It's a single invoice on our standard thirty-day terms. If you'd prefer it to land alongside something else, tell me, and I'll see what I can do.
  12. Gráinne Lynch
    Gráinne Lynch None
    A single invoice is fine. I'd just want the purchase reference on it.
  13. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    If you send me the reference, I'll make sure it's on there.
  14. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    Now, I should raise value for money. Given that usage has grown, we would expect a sensible position on price for the add-on. Is there any flexibility?
  15. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    I'll be straight with you, Brendan. Discounts apply to a first term only, and you're already into a term where that was settled. Let's not discount twice. What I can do is make sure the figure is the figure, with nothing added later, and that it's aligned to your renewal so you're not paying for a part-year on its own.
  16. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    I understand the principle. And it is, to be fair, a modest amount.
  17. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    It is. And I'd add that the usage supports it, which is why I put it forward. I'd not push something you didn't need.
  18. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    Quite. From a compliance point of view I am content with the structure. I would still like to see the corrected document before it is signed. I do not sign drafts.
  19. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Of course. I'll send the corrected order form today, with Shane's wording and the term sentence, and flag clearly it's the final version. You then sign when you're ready. The date we've pencilled is 7 Apr 2026, but there's no rush.
  20. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    What's the next dated step, so we all leave with one? Shane reviews by the end of this week?
  21. Shane Keane
    Shane Keane None
    Yes, I can do that, if it arrives today.
  22. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    Then I will sign once Shane has confirmed. That keeps the seventh achievable.
  23. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    Good. Who signs on the Clonvara side, Brendan, you?
  24. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    Myself, yes.
  25. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Perfect. I'll send that over today. Thank you, all.
  26. Gráinne Lynch
    Gráinne Lynch None
    Thanks, Lewis, Owen. I'll send the reference this afternoon.
  27. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis None
    Thanks, all. Speak soon.

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