Lewis Kerr

Clonvara Insurance Services / BB-Demo – Proposal

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Brendan Moran, Chief Operating Officer, reviewed the Growth proposal on 10 Sep 2025 and committed to nothing. He wants itemised lines, a quarterly option, clear service terms and legal review.

What was said

What this says

Current to 11 Oct 26

Brendan Moran, Chief Operating Officer, reviewed the Growth proposal on 10 Sep 2025 and committed to nothing. He wants itemised lines, a quarterly option, clear service terms and legal review.

What happened: Lewis Kerr walked through the proposal. The total of £53,800 is the first-year figure including implementation, which Brendan confirmed is not the subscription alone.

Customer view: Brendan is careful and compliance-minded. He wants connector commitments and service levels written into the order form, and expects quick handling because brokers will not wait.

Commercial: Siobhán Dunne would accept Growth's standard service and cares most about data fresh by the morning. Lewis owes a note on refresh and credits and a revised proposal with two lines and the quarterly option.

Watch: Brendan is waiting on the revised document and has not agreed anything. The evidence does not show whether he asked for a different tier.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · 11 Oct 2026

Themes

Current to 9 Oct 26
Theme
Growth proposal terms review
Importance
neutral
Sentiment
mixed
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BB-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Lewis Kerr sends a note on the nightly refresh and service credits.
  • Lewis sends a revised proposal with subscription and implementation separated and the quarterly option.
  • Brendan brings in his legal colleague and the parties speak again before 26 Sep 2025.

Risks

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Brendan has agreed nothing and expects service expectations to be written into the order form.
  • Legal review of the order form under the master agreement could stretch the timeline to 26 Sep 2025.

Opportunities

Current to 9 Oct 26
  • Growth subscription with implementation as a separate itemised line.
  • User add-ons later, co-termed to renewal, if usage grows.

Transcript

  1. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Good afternoon, Brendan, good afternoon Siobhán. Just waiting a second to see that everyone's in.
  2. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    Good afternoon, Lewis. I am here. I have the document open in front of me, just to confirm. It is titled as the Growth proposal, dated this week.
  3. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    That's the one. Siobhán, you've got the same?
  4. Siobhán Dunne
    Siobhán Dunne None
    I do. Hello, both. I printed it, which will make Brendan happy.
  5. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    It does. Which version are we looking at, though? I have the one that arrived yesterday afternoon.
  6. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    That's the current one, and the only one. If I change anything I'll re-issue it and say clearly that it replaces this one. So just to confirm what you want to buy and by when: Growth, for the teams Siobhán described, and a decision by 26 Sep 2025. Is that still right?
  7. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    As a working assumption, yes. I should say that I have not agreed anything, I am reading it carefully.
  8. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Of course. Let me walk through it, then you can ask whatever you like. The headline is the total of £53,800, which is for the first year and includes the one-off implementation fee. That's before VAT.
  9. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    So the figure is the total for the first year, implementation included. It is not the annual subscription on its own.
  10. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Exactly right, and I'm glad you asked. After year one the subscription is what you'd renew, and the implementation fee doesn't repeat.
  11. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    That is helpful. For my records, could you separate the two lines in the order form when it comes? I would like to see the subscription and the implementation as distinct items.
  12. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Yes, it will be itemised that way. I'll make sure of it.
  13. Siobhán Dunne
    Siobhán Dunne None
    Can I ask about what's in the implementation? Because Brendan will ask me later and I'd like to have said it out loud.
  14. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Sure. It's a fixed fee, so it doesn't grow if it takes longer. It covers connecting the sources we've discussed, setting up the brain in your Snowflake account, the first dashboards, and training for your team. It's about eight weeks.
  15. Siobhán Dunne
    Siobhán Dunne None
    And the connectors we named, they're committed? As in, there's a date they'll be live by?
  16. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Yes. Any connector named in the order form carries a commitment that it will be live within a set number of days. I don't want to quote the number from memory, I'll put it in the order form so it's in the contract and not in my head.
  17. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    I appreciate that. From a compliance point of view, anything not in the contract is not a commitment.
  18. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Agreed entirely. The same applies to service levels. Growth has its standard availability and a response time on priority issues. If you want anything different, it would need to be written into the order form.
  19. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    Then I would like us to discuss that. We have certain expectations about how quickly a problem is handled, because our brokers will not wait.
  20. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    That's a fair thing to raise. Can you tell me what you'd be comfortable with? Then I can see whether it's within what Growth offers or whether it's a conversation about a different tier.
  21. Siobhán Dunne
    Siobhán Dunne None
    Honestly, for a start-up of this I'd be fine with Growth's standard. It's the data being fresh by the morning that matters for the broker managers.
  22. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    The nightly refresh is complete by early morning, customer local time, on business days, on every tier. That's standard. What changes between tiers is the credit if it's missed, and I'd rather be exact about that in writing than paraphrase it on a call.
  23. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    Please do. And please state it clearly, because I will be asked.
  24. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    I'll send a short note on that after this call. Anything else on scope before I come to terms?
  25. Siobhán Dunne
    Siobhán Dunne None
    Users. We'd start with fewer than the limit, but could we add more later without a conversation about a whole new tier?
  26. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Yes. There are add-ons for extra users, in blocks, and the quote would be co-termed to your renewal so you're not paying for odd periods. I wouldn't push you to a bigger tier unless your usage justified it.
  27. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    Good. Now payment terms and the contract. I assume this sits under a master agreement, and that my colleague in legal will wish to review it.
  28. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    It does, the order form sits under the master agreement. I'd suggest you bring in your legal and compliance manager early, so we're not finding things at the last minute. Payment is thirty days from invoice, annual in advance, or quarterly if you ask.
  29. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    I would prefer to understand the quarterly option, if you can send it. Let us do this properly.
  30. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    I'll include both options in the revised version. So to summarise the actions: I send a note on the refresh and credits, and a revised proposal with the two lines separated and the quarterly option. You bring in your legal colleague. And we speak again before 26 Sep 2025.
  31. Siobhán Dunne
    Siobhán Dunne None
    Grand, so. I'll chase on the three data fields with my engineer as well, so that's off the list by then.
  32. Brendan Moran
    Brendan Moran None
    Thank you, Lewis. That was clear. I will wait for the revised document before I say anything further.
  33. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr None
    Perfect. I'll send that over today. Kind regards, both.

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